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ivolino
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« on: March 09, 2012, 05:56:51 AM »

Has anyone tested IRND filter from Tiffen vs. Schneider? I have to buy IRDN Filter and interested about your experience. I heard that there are problems with too much green from the IRND filter. As far as I know Schneider has changed something on the IRND filter to resolve that problem.
Which Filter is more crisp and better in backlight?
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2012, 10:18:53 AM »

Here you can read more about my experience with the Tiffen Full Spectrum and Schneider Platinum IRND series. 

Cheers,

Vincent
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Gerhard Riesenhuber
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2012, 12:12:28 AM »

Hello Vincent,

I've had both filters and I would go with the Tiffen IRND- Filters. They indeed introduce green into the picture which is easy to correct (you can do a precorrection also with the whitebalance setting). To my experience the Schneider Platinum destroys to much the skintones. I also had one filter of this series which really changed the colors in a strange way. If Schneider has new better ones, I would have to test again.

Best,
Gerhard
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cduffy
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2012, 08:46:52 AM »

You may wish to review some tests I have posted on our web site. Plus read my white paper on the subject at.

VIDEO Link:

http://www.thelondonfiltercompany.com/video_player.php?cat=1&vid_id=9

White Paper link

http://www.thelondonfiltercompany.com/filters/pdf/Far_Red_Pollution_White_Paper.pdf

Carey Duffy
Technical Director of MPTV Camera Filters @ Tiffen International Ltd
Operation Director @ The London Filter Company, a division of Tiffen International Ltd
www.thelondonfiltercompany.com
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2012, 01:47:13 PM »

Carey, big thanks for that!
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Thomas Wright
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2012, 01:23:20 AM »

Yeah nice one
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 11:47:03 AM »

Hi!
Is there still no common ground on which is the best ND filter combination to use with Alexa?
I understand that Tiffen IRND-s and Schneider Platinum's are on the pedestal.

I understand that there is no perfect solution yet, but was thinking if some decision has been made by the majority yet.

Ants Martin
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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2012, 12:33:05 PM »

We have been very happy with using the Tiffen IRND filters on the Alexa with Ultra Prime Lenses.
The images remain sharp and the skin tones are great.
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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2012, 11:48:35 PM »

We got our most recent heavy IRNDs (1.5, 1.8, & 2.1) from tiffen in reflective packaging. Is the absorption of  IR frequencies travelling through the pouches and is this degrading the filter over time?
 
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Gerhard Riesenhuber
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2012, 10:54:20 AM »

Hi Ants,

Like I wrote above the TIFFEN IRND are they way to go for me, because they retain
general color and skin tones the best compared to other filters I've tested.
I always do a test with each filter to see how much green (or general color shift) it
introduces and do a precorrection with the white balance setting of the Alexa
e.g. 5600 K -2 (for reducing the green)

All the best,
Gerhard
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2012, 08:40:07 AM »

I can only double the statement of gerhard. the schneider filters are total crap.

take TIFFEN full spectrum IRNDs
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